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Sage Grouse
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September 23, 2015
6:12 am
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rcatron

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For you westerners, whats your thoughts on the Sage Grouse not being added to the Endangered Species list? I really know little about the situation. Just heard them talking about it on the radio this morning.

November 28, 2015
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I am very glad they did not list them. Partly because people could not enjoy hunting them anymore, but mainly because farmers and oil companies can still work on land where grouse live. The ESA is a government program used to steal land from the people, by pushing them off to supposedly save a species that is not threatened. Some numbers for different animals are low, but as the enviro wackos like to say, “the survival of the fittest.” Laugh Managing other animals would help with game numbers. For example, the wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone was used to put many ranchers and outfitters out of business. They have succeeded in this, by not keeping their word about keeping only 70 breeding pairs I think it was. They have allowed them to spread all over the North West, and for a long time kept them under the ESL. Most states have started putting a season on them. It is too late. The world class elk herd in Yellowstone will never recover, Elk Moose and Deer have taken a huge hit, and the cattle are killed and harassed to no end. It is the EPA’s way of gaining power and keeping people off the land. That’s my opinion, which only scratches the surface.

November 28, 2015
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I will agree that the reintroduction of wolves (and they are my favorite animal) got out of control. The tree huggers had way too much input and to much weight in the decision making that went on in the wolf reintroduction. Due to this issue things went on way too long and too many breeding pairs were allowed to come to fruition before some sort of regulations were put in to hunting permits. 

However it is a jump to say that it was the government’s plan to destroy ranchers and outfitters. While we definitely have corruption in the government and there are many cases recently with BLM and EPA overreach, to say that the true intent and idea was to ruin people is a big assumption. 

I think tree huggers and such get so fixated on an idea of saving something and then can’t see beyond the nose on their faces. There is no forward thinking to other things that may be effected. 

Those who would sacrafice their freedom for a little bit of security deserve neither.
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